Thursday, May 12, 2005
Condi On 2nd Amendment
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, recalling how her father took up arms to defend fellow blacks from racist whites in the segregated South, said Wednesday the constitutional right of Americans to own guns is as important as their rights to free speech and religion.
In an interview on CNN's "Larry King Live," Rice said she came to that view from personal experience. She said her father, a black minister, and his friends armed themselves to defended the black community in Birmingham, Ala., against the White Knight Riders in 1962 and 1963. She said if local authorities had had lists of registered weapons, she did not think her father and other blacks would have been able to defend themselves.
Any liberals want to argue with her?
But I do take issue with her suggestion that a common sense system of registering weapons today, not unlike the way we register automobiles, would violate the 2nd Amendment or that it would lead to government confiscation of said weapons.
Do criminals have a Constitutional right to carry a weapon? You would think so the way the NRA makes it impossible for the government to keep guns out of the hands of criminals.
Mike, I think you missed the context of her claim: 1962 Alabama. Of COURSE, the white bigots running the local government would have abused the weapon registration system to keep blacks from exercising their right to bear arms.
I understood the context, but I also understand that she intends it as a lesson for today. But just because the white bigots would have abused a registration system back then does not mean it should not be used today. That's like saying we should shut down the public transportation system because white bigots in the 60s forced blacks to sit at the back of the bus.
Does that mean it should get federal subsidies? I don't know, but I'm sure if you take the Amtrak subsidy away from the urban states they are going to demand that the rural states give up some of their cherished subsidies as well.
Just because it won't be abused today (dangerous assumption considering who is in power) is no assurance that it won't be abused in the future.
When guns are outlawed, the criminals are happy that only they have guns.
As for Condi -- CONDI FOR PRESIDENT! RUN RICE RUN!
Ranten N. Raven
Anti-gunners always try to correlate registering cars to registering guns...sorry but it just doesn't fly. Cars are not a right guarenteed buy the Bill of Rights whereas firearms are.
You would think so the way the NRA makes it impossible for the government to keep guns out of the hands of criminals.
Your ignorance of the issue shows from this statement. The NRA is not stopping the government from keeping guns out of the hands of criminals. There are over 22,000+ gun control laws on the books. Get the DA's to quit dropping the gun charges when they plea out a felon and instead prosecute them for the crime instead of trying to add more laws and registrations that will only affect law-abiding citizens. If you want to see the results of gun registration in history then consider when Hitler used the gun registration Germany had in place to confiscate guns from the Jews. Or for something more current, Rwanda in 1994, where 800,000 Tutsi citizens were killed. Let's see, Rwanda has gun registration for guns and ammunition. Seems like it did those 800k people alot of good eh? And there are more, this is just a small sample. Additionally, why don't you look to our neighbors to the north and see how effective their gun registry has been for fighting crime.
It has just been a giant waste of money with nothing to show for it. It has cost over $1 billion so far (500 times more than the cost stated to get it inacted).
If you think the socialists in the government would not hesitate to use a registry to confiscate guns in the future then you are very naive. By their nature, socialsts want people to depend on the government for everything and someone that owns a gun and believes the security of their family is their responsibility just doesn't fit the socialist agenda. A registry would only end up making law-abiding people a sitting target and not do a damn thing to keep guns away from criminals. Oh, one other recent example of this is is in Australia where they had registration. Well, it sure made it easy for them to know who had the guns when they decided to confiscate and destroy 640,381 personal firearms. Sorry but registration of firearms is not something I expect from the US government. They have 22,000+ laws on the books to enforce against criminals...
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Instapundit expanded on Condi's theme with this link to his 2002 article:
To sum up, no genocide has ever been prevented or stopped by the "international community".
And no genocide has ever been perpetrated on an armed populace.